Comments on: Spiral Jetty: Land art vs short term gain http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/ The Official Weblog of The Long Now Foundation and Friends Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: WeSwinger http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-4456 WeSwinger Tue, 20 May 2008 10:37:48 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/#comment-4456 Sentimentality. Preciousness. Come on people, the question is value. Is it more valuable to use a piece of land to extract X,000 barrels @ $100/barrel, or to have it 'protected'. With that money you could move the whole earthwork to a less prospective spot and build a nice Visitors' Center too. Sentimentality. Preciousness. Come on people, the question is value. Is it more valuable to use a piece of land to extract X,000 barrels @ $100/barrel, or to have it ‘protected’. With that money you could move the whole earthwork to a less prospective spot and build a nice Visitors’ Center too.

]]> By: annie olson http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-3527 annie olson Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:03:32 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/#comment-3527 I've known of the spiral jetty for some time but have never been there. I was a shell collector since childhood and in 1987 I reconnected with what we'd done to get the land from the Indians. (I was married to a Tlingit from Alaska and we were very involved in American Indian justice issues) This awareness turned me into an environmentalist instantly. So I quit shell collecting and buying right away. Now I make seashells of clay whichg I call Guiltless. I am so sad that again the oil companies hit what I hold dear. (we ran KLAM the radio station in Cordova Aalaska that's on Prince William Sound, site of the exxon valdez spill.) I would like to know more on this. I’ve known of the spiral jetty for some time but have never been there. I was a shell collector since childhood and in 1987 I reconnected with what we’d done to get the land from the Indians. (I was married to a Tlingit from Alaska and we were very involved in American Indian justice issues) This awareness turned me into an environmentalist instantly. So I quit shell collecting and buying right away. Now I make seashells of clay whichg I call Guiltless. I am so sad that again the oil companies hit what I hold dear. (we ran KLAM the radio station in Cordova Aalaska that’s on Prince William Sound, site of the exxon valdez spill.) I would like to know more on this.

]]> By: Oscar http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-3452 Oscar Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:25:32 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/#comment-3452 Ah, the elloquence of <i>stupid piece of crap</i>, takes me back to my art school days. The appeal of art is subjective, as is the definition of "progress". For example, desparately clinging to a doomed energy base (petroleum) which is not likely to last much longer anyways (the book "The Long Emergency" is a good place to start learning), at the expense of other more lasting institutions that can contribute long-term, hardly seems like progress to me. I'm not a big fan of spiral jetty either, but just because I'm not attracted to it doesn't mean I want it destroyed. Subjectively, Oscar Grimm Ah, the elloquence of stupid piece of crap, takes me back to my art school days. The appeal of art is subjective, as is the definition of “progress”. For example, desparately clinging to a doomed energy base (petroleum) which is not likely to last much longer anyways (the book “The Long Emergency” is a good place to start learning), at the expense of other more lasting institutions that can contribute long-term, hardly seems like progress to me.

I’m not a big fan of spiral jetty either, but just because I’m not attracted to it doesn’t mean I want it destroyed.

Subjectively,
Oscar Grimm

]]> By: David http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-3449 David Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:56:22 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/#comment-3449 I disagree w/ the above comment, as I think the Spiral Jetty is a great work of art. I went ahead and sent an e-mail to Mr. Jemming opposing the drilling (thanks for the link, Alexander). I wonder, however, how Smithson himself would have felt about all this. The concept of entropy was central to his work. I disagree w/ the above comment, as I think the Spiral Jetty is a great work of art. I went ahead and sent an e-mail to Mr. Jemming opposing the drilling (thanks for the link, Alexander). I wonder, however, how Smithson himself would have felt about all this. The concept of entropy was central to his work.

]]> By: no http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-3439 no Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:14:29 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2008/02/06/spiral-jetty-land-art-vs-short-term-gain/#comment-3439 Unfortunately, I couldn't find an example form letter to use for showing my support for drilling for oil instead of preserving this stupid piece of crap. Enough preserving useless buildings and landmarks. You can't have progress if we hold everything back to the state it was in in 1843. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find an example form letter to use for showing my support for drilling for oil instead of preserving this stupid piece of crap. Enough preserving useless buildings and landmarks. You can’t have progress if we hold everything back to the state it was in in 1843.

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