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	<title>Comments on: Data Rot</title>
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		<title>By: The Long Now Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 1,000-Year Digital Storage</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2009/03/27/data-rot/comment-page-1/#comment-7560</link>
		<dc:creator>The Long Now Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 1,000-Year Digital Storage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you&#8217;re among those concerned with data rot, you might see a glimmer of hope for long-term digital preservation in a recent development from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Craig Daniels</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2009/03/27/data-rot/comment-page-1/#comment-6654</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* It&#039;s nice to see the new posts here, and thanks for making the beautiful Rosetta disk so visually accessible.  I also appreciate Long Now’s presentations being available on line, but I had no luck downloading them.  The MP3 for Griffith’s 2009-01-16 presentation kept loading for only 80 seconds worth.  The Orlov talk (2009-02-13) got cut down to the first 13 seconds.

Pogue and Spicer&#039;s exchange about digital &quot;data rot&quot; is the discouraging techno-tip of the iceberg or our common concern: cultural/historical continuity --or at least the ability to bridge over discontinuities (&quot;dark ages&quot;). That latter fall-back is the most likely outcome, so I think we owe it to ourselves and our heritage to build bridges. That involves the standard three tasks: to determine what it is of our essence we seek to preserve, what medium to use, and where/how to keep it safe.

Long Now’s projects are laudably designed to be nurturing of and predicated upon some degree of civilizational continuity. Whereas our “Time Capsule Tile” (TCT) project originally sought to bridge over intervening periods up to a million years, Long Now’s horizon is a more sensible 10,000 years off: about twice the distance we’re commonly aware of having come.

In the several years since we began the TCT effort, we’ve come to realize how dynamic and impermanent nearly all of the Earth’s terrain is over periods greater than 10,000 years.  A time capsule is liable to get buried by watery sediment, the forest’s “carbon cycle”, subducted by the “rock cycle”, melted and blended with volcanic basalt, or turned into a pathetic smear at the base of a moving glacier. 

Long Now’s mountain cave approach looks better all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* It&#8217;s nice to see the new posts here, and thanks for making the beautiful Rosetta disk so visually accessible.  I also appreciate Long Now’s presentations being available on line, but I had no luck downloading them.  The MP3 for Griffith’s 2009-01-16 presentation kept loading for only 80 seconds worth.  The Orlov talk (2009-02-13) got cut down to the first 13 seconds.</p>
<p>Pogue and Spicer&#8217;s exchange about digital &#8220;data rot&#8221; is the discouraging techno-tip of the iceberg or our common concern: cultural/historical continuity &#8211;or at least the ability to bridge over discontinuities (&#8220;dark ages&#8221;). That latter fall-back is the most likely outcome, so I think we owe it to ourselves and our heritage to build bridges. That involves the standard three tasks: to determine what it is of our essence we seek to preserve, what medium to use, and where/how to keep it safe.</p>
<p>Long Now’s projects are laudably designed to be nurturing of and predicated upon some degree of civilizational continuity. Whereas our “Time Capsule Tile” (TCT) project originally sought to bridge over intervening periods up to a million years, Long Now’s horizon is a more sensible 10,000 years off: about twice the distance we’re commonly aware of having come.</p>
<p>In the several years since we began the TCT effort, we’ve come to realize how dynamic and impermanent nearly all of the Earth’s terrain is over periods greater than 10,000 years.  A time capsule is liable to get buried by watery sediment, the forest’s “carbon cycle”, subducted by the “rock cycle”, melted and blended with volcanic basalt, or turned into a pathetic smear at the base of a moving glacier. </p>
<p>Long Now’s mountain cave approach looks better all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Barth</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2009/03/27/data-rot/comment-page-1/#comment-6653</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Barth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chiseling hieroglyphics into stone blocks buried in the desert starts to sound a lot more reasonable…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chiseling hieroglyphics into stone blocks buried in the desert starts to sound a lot more reasonable…</p>
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		<title>By: Peaboy</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2009/03/27/data-rot/comment-page-1/#comment-6650</link>
		<dc:creator>Peaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How timely since I just asked you about long-storage paper options. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How timely since I just asked you about long-storage paper options. ;-)</p>
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