Comments on: Introducing The Long News http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/ The Official Weblog of The Long Now Foundation and Friends Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: flowpoke http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-20976 flowpoke Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:17:52 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-20976 This blog may evolve into something else but Im pretty sure the data that is present today will be accessible 5 years from today. I'll 'long bet' you that it outlasts your 5 year prediction. (; This blog may evolve into something else but Im pretty sure the data that is present today will be accessible 5 years from today. I'll 'long bet' you that it outlasts your 5 year prediction. (;

]]> By: Adam http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-18828 Adam Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:52:17 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-18828 This website won't be here in 5 years. Digital storage is tenuous and vulnerable. Good idea and good luck with future iterations. This website won’t be here in 5 years. Digital storage is tenuous and vulnerable. Good idea and good luck with future iterations.

]]> By: Michael Nielsen http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-7597 Michael Nielsen Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:56:47 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-7597 This is a very interesting idea, and I've been enoying the posts. But a problem is that most news stories concern events which happened on a very short timescale ("Obama wins election"). The most interesting things in our society happen over longer timescales, and thus aren't usually regarded as news in the traditional way. Stewart Brand's observations about how cities are defusing the population bomb are an example: this is taking place over a generational time scale, and so isn't really news in the traditional sense. Yet it's far more important than almost everything in the news. Similarly, most major scientific discoveries are really cumulative events that take place over years or decades, and so aren't news. This is part of why science news is so bad: at the timescale news operates at, all you get are fashionable incremental improvements, not news of what's really important. This is a very interesting idea, and I’ve been enoying the posts. But a problem is that most news stories concern events which happened on a very short timescale (“Obama wins election”). The most interesting things in our society happen over longer timescales, and thus aren’t usually regarded as news in the traditional way. Stewart Brand’s observations about how cities are defusing the population bomb are an example: this is taking place over a generational time scale, and so isn’t really news in the traditional sense. Yet it’s far more important than almost everything in the news. Similarly, most major scientific discoveries are really cumulative events that take place over years or decades, and so aren’t news. This is part of why science news is so bad: at the timescale news operates at, all you get are fashionable incremental improvements, not news of what’s really important.

]]> By: Alan Drummer http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-6913 Alan Drummer Fri, 01 May 2009 20:57:48 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-6913 This is why I read the news! Thanks for doing this! This is why I read the news! Thanks for doing this!

]]> By: Monkeymagic » Links for April 28th http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-6888 Monkeymagic » Links for April 28th Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:29:13 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-6888 [...] The Long Now Blog » Blog Archive » Introducing The Long NewsEach weekday, The New York Times prints around 125 news stories. That?s just one newspaper; add in all other newspapers, plus television, radio, and the internet, and it?s clear thousands upon thousands of news stories are generated every day. [...] [...] The Long Now Blog » Blog Archive » Introducing The Long NewsEach weekday, The New York Times prints around 125 news stories. That?s just one newspaper; add in all other newspapers, plus television, radio, and the internet, and it?s clear thousands upon thousands of news stories are generated every day. [...]

]]> By: Vivian http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-6874 Vivian Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:18:30 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-6874 Well, I thought this would be interesting but the story on human evolution was a total non-story, a complete waste of time. Can't you do better than this? Sorry...but where's the real story here? Well, I thought this would be interesting but the story on human evolution was a total non-story, a complete waste of time. Can’t you do better than this? Sorry…but where’s the real story here?

]]> By: sndtrks http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-6839 sndtrks Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:41:09 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-6839 Finally! Now I can officially claim "I just read it for the articles"!!! LOL! Finally! Now I can officially claim “I just read it for the articles”!!!

LOL!

]]> By: Bob Citron http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-6833 Bob Citron Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:52:09 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-6833 This is such a terrific idea! Many stories about the future will have little relevance to the long term (thousands of years) and they are mixed in with stories that may have major significance to the long term future of our species. Singling out those stories with long term significance and cataloging them for posterity is a great service. This is such a terrific idea! Many stories about the future will have little relevance to the long term (thousands of years) and they are mixed in with stories that may have major significance to the long term future of our species. Singling out those stories with long term significance and cataloging them for posterity is a great service.

]]> By: David http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-6831 David Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:57:40 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-6831 This is a great idea, but I wonder if built-in time lag would help. Maybe take a first shot at predicting which stories have long-term effects, as you've done above, and then come back at different intervals (a year, ten, a hundred, etc.) and sort them into the ones that really did and the ones that didn't. The misses could be just as informative as the hits. This is a great idea, but I wonder if built-in time lag would help. Maybe take a first shot at predicting which stories have long-term effects, as you’ve done above, and then come back at different intervals (a year, ten, a hundred, etc.) and sort them into the ones that really did and the ones that didn’t. The misses could be just as informative as the hits.

]]> By: Jean-Francois Beauvais http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-6830 Jean-Francois Beauvais Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:36:42 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-6830 Good idea, especially if those news are revisited from time to time to see if those really had an impact on the future. Good idea, especially if those news are revisited from time to time to see if those really had an impact on the future.

]]> By: Stuart Candy http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-6828 Stuart Candy Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:59:21 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-6828 Thanks for taking this forward, Kirk. News is undoubtedly an area where slower/better needs to challenge and counterbalance faster/cheaper. Thanks for taking this forward, Kirk. News is undoubtedly an area where slower/better needs to challenge and counterbalance faster/cheaper.

]]> By: Alexander Rose http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/comment-page-1/#comment-6827 Alexander Rose Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:43:39 +0000 http://blog.longnow.org/2009/04/21/introducing-the-long-news/#comment-6827 Thanks for this Kirk. The first thing I am realizing that this will need is a strategy for preserving the content of the stories, as my experience is that news links only have a half-life of a few months to a few years. And that was back when newspapers had a funding model that still worked! Thanks for this Kirk. The first thing I am realizing that this will need is a strategy for preserving the content of the stories, as my experience is that news links only have a half-life of a few months to a few years. And that was back when newspapers had a funding model that still worked!

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