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	<title>Comments on: Klingon, Elvish and Esperanto &#8212; Linguist takes a serious look at Invented Languages</title>
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		<title>By: Dea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were: Language does not dictate what is said, except perhaps in instances of the subjunctive and other  rules of grammar borrowed from languages such as Sanskrit. but it could mamake the &quot;setting ever so much more interesting (Elvish) as well as select the partners in dialogue and open them up to easier agreement in the transaction of communication, creating only common ground I&#039;d settle for lack of hostility</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were: Language does not dictate what is said, except perhaps in instances of the subjunctive and other  rules of grammar borrowed from languages such as Sanskrit. but it could mamake the &#8220;setting ever so much more interesting (Elvish) as well as select the partners in dialogue and open them up to easier agreement in the transaction of communication, creating only common ground I&#8217;d settle for lack of hostility</p>
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		<title>By: Henry V. Janoski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry V. Janoski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that someone today thinks that Ludwik Zamenhof, the creator of Esperanto, was a German!  He was a Polish Jew, born in Bialystok, Poland, who later lived and worked in Warsaw, where he first published this international language in 1887.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that someone today thinks that Ludwik Zamenhof, the creator of Esperanto, was a German!  He was a Polish Jew, born in Bialystok, Poland, who later lived and worked in Warsaw, where he first published this international language in 1887.</p>
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		<title>By: Endangered and invented languages &#171; Language and identity trends tracking project</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endangered and invented languages &#171; Language and identity trends tracking project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Their podcasts are always really good anyway, even if this isn&#8217;t useful for your project) http://blog.longnow.org/2009/06/01/klingon-elvish-and-esperanto-linguist-takes-a-serious-look-at-inv... Also, is there something funky you can do with google trends to track emergence/disappearance of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Their podcasts are always really good anyway, even if this isn&#8217;t useful for your project) <a href="http://blog.longnow.org/2009/06/01/klingon-elvish-and-esperanto-linguist-takes-a-serious-look-at-inv.." rel="nofollow">http://blog.longnow.org/2009/06/01/klingon-elvish-and-esperanto-linguist-takes-a-serious-look-at-inv..</a>. Also, is there something funky you can do with google trends to track emergence/disappearance of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dea</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2009/06/01/klingon-elvish-and-esperanto-linguist-takes-a-serious-look-at-invented-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-8490</link>
		<dc:creator>Dea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What then about PIE and the genetic coding for language?! THe only diference between most languages from the same tree is pure assumption, if you are human, you should be able to speak whatever you like, as long as it is species related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What then about PIE and the genetic coding for language?! THe only diference between most languages from the same tree is pure assumption, if you are human, you should be able to speak whatever you like, as long as it is species related.</p>
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		<title>By: alan more</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since when was esperanto created in poland? the man behind it was german and if you speak, german, spanish, english, you can speak esperanto easily too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since when was esperanto created in poland? the man behind it was german and if you speak, german, spanish, english, you can speak esperanto easily too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>France and the world need  to acknowledge that the romance languages of the Iberian Peninsula does not boil down to much more than Gaelician  with a patriotic flavour own to each different country, which woul affect the EU reasons of wanting a &quot;neutral language in which to communicate, the alledged swahili influence in Esperanto could sway it more toward the &quot;Persian side, see the Moorish invasion of the middle ages into Africa and Europe. Esperanto that is spoken with a French accent is French as the way you speak any language is indicative of who you are, perhaps the EU listeners should just try to listen without passing judgement on race and country of origin, the whole EU have languages originating in Proto Indo European, why not start there? They are a nation, even into Urdu in Pakistan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>France and the world need  to acknowledge that the romance languages of the Iberian Peninsula does not boil down to much more than Gaelician  with a patriotic flavour own to each different country, which woul affect the EU reasons of wanting a &#8220;neutral language in which to communicate, the alledged swahili influence in Esperanto could sway it more toward the &#8220;Persian side, see the Moorish invasion of the middle ages into Africa and Europe. Esperanto that is spoken with a French accent is French as the way you speak any language is indicative of who you are, perhaps the EU listeners should just try to listen without passing judgement on race and country of origin, the whole EU have languages originating in Proto Indo European, why not start there? They are a nation, even into Urdu in Pakistan</p>
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		<title>By: The Long Now Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ese&#8230; Esselen&#8230; Esperanto!</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2009/06/01/klingon-elvish-and-esperanto-linguist-takes-a-serious-look-at-invented-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-7483</link>
		<dc:creator>The Long Now Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ese&#8230; Esselen&#8230; Esperanto!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can also follow by RSS feed). This week, we uploaded this grammar of Esperanto &#8212; a language invented by a single man, now used as a means of regular communication by thousands, if not millions of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can also follow by RSS feed). This week, we uploaded this grammar of Esperanto &#8212; a language invented by a single man, now used as a means of regular communication by thousands, if not millions of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rogir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But why is Esperanto grouped with the languages from France? It was created in Poland, the majority of its vocabulary is Romance, its semantics and syntax is somewhat Slavic, and the majority of its speakers are in Eastern Europe. So it could have been placed anywhere in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But why is Esperanto grouped with the languages from France? It was created in Poland, the majority of its vocabulary is Romance, its semantics and syntax is somewhat Slavic, and the majority of its speakers are in Eastern Europe. So it could have been placed anywhere in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: mankso</title>
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		<dc:creator>mankso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to what Jason Green wrote:
It is not only linguists but also serious authors who are interested in constructed languages.
One should not forget to mention Geoffrey Sutton&#039;s recent monumental (728 pages!) &#039;Concise Encyclopedia of the Original Literature of Esperanto 1887-2007&quot;, NY: Mondial. 2008. ISBN 978-1-59569-090-6. 
It is really quite astounding how much original material has in fact been produced in Esperanto in a mere 120 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to what Jason Green wrote:<br />
It is not only linguists but also serious authors who are interested in constructed languages.<br />
One should not forget to mention Geoffrey Sutton&#8217;s recent monumental (728 pages!) &#8216;Concise Encyclopedia of the Original Literature of Esperanto 1887-2007&#8243;, NY: Mondial. 2008. ISBN 978-1-59569-090-6.<br />
It is really quite astounding how much original material has in fact been produced in Esperanto in a mere 120 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Green</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2009/06/01/klingon-elvish-and-esperanto-linguist-takes-a-serious-look-at-invented-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-7128</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To suggest that Okrent&#039;s book is the first &quot;serious linguistic inquiry&quot;into invented languages ignores Umberto Eco&#039;s The Search for the Perfect Language, as well as the fact that both the Klingon Language Institute Journal and the Tolkienian Linguistics Journal Vinyar Tengwar have been MLA indexed for some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To suggest that Okrent&#8217;s book is the first &#8220;serious linguistic inquiry&#8221;into invented languages ignores Umberto Eco&#8217;s The Search for the Perfect Language, as well as the fact that both the Klingon Language Institute Journal and the Tolkienian Linguistics Journal Vinyar Tengwar have been MLA indexed for some time.</p>
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