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		<title>By: Grout Repair</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-22097</link>
		<dc:creator>Grout Repair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was interesting. You seem very knowledgeable in your field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was interesting. You seem very knowledgeable in your field.</p>
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		<title>By: Oriental Rug Cleaning</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-22030</link>
		<dc:creator>Oriental Rug Cleaning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is one of the most vital information for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is one of the most vital information for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Oriental Rug Cleaning Kendall</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-21730</link>
		<dc:creator>Oriental Rug Cleaning Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 12:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s a gorgeous picture that i have been seen ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#39;s a gorgeous picture that i have been seen ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Mold Removal Coral Springs</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-21697</link>
		<dc:creator>Mold Removal Coral Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Great picture. Loved it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Great picture. Loved it.</p>
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		<title>By: 山平</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-21454</link>
		<dc:creator>山平</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great painting showing where the world is heading and what people refuses to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great painting showing where the world is heading and what people refuses to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Hohum</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-21375</link>
		<dc:creator>Hohum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 08:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how different people see different things. i see a world thats advanced so far that people who choose to live unnecessarily in a simpler more down to earth way, can do it a stones throw from the effluent that is clean enough to drink and eat out of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how different people see different things. i see a world thats advanced so far that people who choose to live unnecessarily in a simpler more down to earth way, can do it a stones throw from the effluent that is clean enough to drink and eat out of.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Smith</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-21220</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is beginning now. it won&#039;t look classical medieval, as in the beautiful image above, but it is beginng.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Js_g7M60M&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Js_g7M60M&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is beginning now. it won&#39;t look classical medieval, as in the beautiful image above, but it is beginng.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Js_g7M60M" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Js_g7M60M</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A truly fascinating piece... Reminds me of some cities in Africa, and in particular of pink glass tower of the Banque des états d&#039;Afrique centrale towering over working-class neighborhoods in Yaoundé, Cameroon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A truly fascinating piece&#8230; Reminds me of some cities in Africa, and in particular of pink glass tower of the Banque des états d&#39;Afrique centrale towering over working-class neighborhoods in Yaoundé, Cameroon.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-21189</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i see no reason why there cant be a future that blends the two life styles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i see no reason why there cant be a future that blends the two life styles.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Petrie</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-21187</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Petrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Richard for that link...a very fine article with which to start my morning!  I had no idea life expectancy over the past several centuries in so many cultures was....so awful!  And both Wikipedia and myself had tried to eliminate the &quot;infant mortality&quot; issue: IF you make it to your first (or 5th) birthday...you&#039;re MUCH more likely to make it to 50 (or 60 or 70).  In other words, if you do NOT die of some illness early on, that will help.  As we teach folks about living a long life, we may seem pedantic to say, &quot;To live a long life, you can&#039;t die young.&quot;  Yet, watching before you cross the street, wearing seatbelts and other measures are critical to not die young.  Thanks again for the WP link!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Richard for that link&#8230;a very fine article with which to start my morning!  I had no idea life expectancy over the past several centuries in so many cultures was&#8230;.so awful!  And both Wikipedia and myself had tried to eliminate the &#8220;infant mortality&#8221; issue: IF you make it to your first (or 5th) birthday&#8230;you&#39;re MUCH more likely to make it to 50 (or 60 or 70).  In other words, if you do NOT die of some illness early on, that will help.  As we teach folks about living a long life, we may seem pedantic to say, &#8220;To live a long life, you can&#39;t die young.&#8221;  Yet, watching before you cross the street, wearing seatbelts and other measures are critical to not die young.  Thanks again for the WP link!</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: TIRA AWW</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-21185</link>
		<dc:creator>TIRA AWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like this place...so beautiful....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like this place&#8230;so beautiful&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-22399</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!
Wikipedia can, as always, give interesting reading on the subject, most interesting to my point is the following section:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Life_expectancy_variation_over_time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
Wikipedia can, as always, give interesting reading on the subject, most interesting to my point is the following section:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Life_expectancy_variation_over_time" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Life_expectancy_variation_over_time</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rarian Rakista</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-22398</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarian Rakista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it will be like Zardoz?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zardoz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it will be like Zardoz?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zardoz" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zardoz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Petrie</title>
		<link>http://blog.longnow.org/2010/07/25/dystopian-utopia/comment-page-1/#comment-21183</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Petrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, you&#039;re right!  I DID make an assumption, but it&#039;s based upon the health of modern societies v. primitive cultures, NOT influenced by horrible diets.  The LONGEST lived peoples are primitive cultures eating exemplary diets such as the Vilcabamas, the New Guinea Islanders, the Soviet Georgians and the Hunzas of East Tibet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Truth be told, these primitive cultures live very long lives (although possibly prone to exaggeration), and suffer from little if any heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, cancer or arthritis.  In America?  575,000 died from cancer just last year and almost the same from heart disease.  This is NOT because we&#039;re living longer, as many are succumbing to these diseases way before 72-78, our current life expectancy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I have no idea what the lifestyle is of the people living in the different portions of Zilinsky&#039;s painting and it is an assumption I should not have made.  But based upon modern evidence, I thought it was a fair assumption to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, you&#39;re right!  I DID make an assumption, but it&#39;s based upon the health of modern societies v. primitive cultures, NOT influenced by horrible diets.  The LONGEST lived peoples are primitive cultures eating exemplary diets such as the Vilcabamas, the New Guinea Islanders, the Soviet Georgians and the Hunzas of East Tibet.</p>
<p>Truth be told, these primitive cultures live very long lives (although possibly prone to exaggeration), and suffer from little if any heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, cancer or arthritis.  In America?  575,000 died from cancer just last year and almost the same from heart disease.  This is NOT because we&#39;re living longer, as many are succumbing to these diseases way before 72-78, our current life expectancy.</p>
<p>So I have no idea what the lifestyle is of the people living in the different portions of Zilinsky&#39;s painting and it is an assumption I should not have made.  But based upon modern evidence, I thought it was a fair assumption to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would prefer to live in the middle ages, the walled cities resemble a maximum security prison!</description>
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